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The Monday Mail ~ help Kirsten find a new perfume

Posted by Robin on 17 November 2008 71 Comments

Kirsten is searching for her perfect signature daytime perfume. She loves Dior's Hypnotic Poison ("it's really comforting and I think that's what I look for in a perfume"), but it's too heavy to wear to work, and her sister-in-law also wears it so it doesn't feel like it's "hers". She bought quite a few new perfumes this year, none of which really turned out to work for her, and she's also tried an amazing number of samples and decants — you might want to grab a cup of coffee before you start reading.

Here are a few details about Kirsten:

She's in her late 30s, married, and mother to a young girl.

She works as a Quality Manager for a manufacturing company, and she does spend time on the factory floor "getting really hands-on dirty".

She describes herself as "a bit of a tom-boy", and her style is casual but she likes to smell feminine.

Kirsten says smell is really important to her: "From my daughter’s fresh blow-dried hair, evening flowers in the garden, the smell of chocolate, honey & good coffee – it’s all about comfort scents."

Kirsten lives in Scotland, and has good access to perfume stores, niche and mainstream. She's willing to spend up to $150 for her perfect scent, and she's also willing to purchase samples.

Kirsten gravitates towards strong, heady, sweet florientals, and most of them are "too much" for daytime wear. She loves sweet, creamy floral notes, vanilla if it isn't too foody, and some woody notes. She doesn't like mossy notes, green herbal notes, iris, anything too "powdery or austere", coconut, or harsh woods.

Here are the perfumes Kirsten has purchased this year:

Dolce & Gabbana The One EDP: "just overpoweringly floral & trashy".
Guerlain My Insolence: "too sickly sweet and adolescent".
Paco Rabanne XS for Women: "brought on a migraine".
Chloe (2008 version): "smells synthetic & burns my nose!".
Gwen Stefani L.A.M.B.: "smells like furniture polish".
Thierry Mugler Angel: "caramel & honey on me, shame everybody around me hates it".
Thierry Mugler Eau De Star: "headache inducing and way too heavy"
Annick Goutal Songes: "I love this, but my husband hates it".
Annick Goutal Petit Cherie: "dry down is a little too green".
Calvin Klein Euphoria Blossom: "too green and sharp and grates after a while".
Matthew Williamson Lotus: "pretty, but 'not enough'".
Matthew Williamson Jasmine Sambac: Kirsten sometimes layers this with the Lotus, but it's too "one dimensional on its own", and also "a little too 'green'".
Kenzo 7.15 am in Bali: "too sweet & foody".
Bulgari Jasmin Noir: Kirsten adores this one, but again, too heavy for day.
Max Mara Le Parfum: "too heady & floral, nice to smell", but too much for daytime wear.

Other fragrances Kirsten has in circulation include Thierry Mugler Alien (she loves it, but it's too much for daytime wear), two Issey Miyake summer limited editions (she does likes these), Lolita Lempicka (she loves it, but "usually sees a few curled up noses" when she wears it) and Geurlain L’Instant ("it can be overpowering").

And here are some of the fragrances Kirsten has tried:

Too green and/or flowery: Guerlain Nahema & Cruel Gardenia, Etro Heliotrope, Robert Piguet Fracas, Child Eau de Parfum, Profumum Dambrosia & Neroli, Frederic Malle Carnal Flower, Antonia’s Flowers Tiempe Passate, i Profumi di Firenze Magnolia Dolce, L’Artisan La Chasse aux Papillons Extreme & Ananas Fizz, Annick Goutal Eau de Charlotte & Eau de Hadrien, Ormonde Jayne Frangipani Absolute, Marc Jacobs Eau de Toilette & Island.

Sweet & spicy, but just too much: Parfumerie Generale Un Crime Exotique, Parfum d’Empire Aziyade, Profumum Confetto, Profumi di Pantelleria Jaila, Annick Goutal Myrrhe Ardente, Parfums de Nicolai Eau Exotique & Sacrebleu, Jean Paul Gaultier Classique.

Too old fashioned or odd: Jean Patou Joy, Guerlain Jicky & L'Heure Bleue, People of the Labyrinths Luctor Et Emergo, Hermes Kelly Caleche.

Harsh woods: Gucci by Gucci, Dior Midnight Poison, DKNY Be Delicious Night.

Lastly, here is a list of scents that almost worked:

Guerlain Apres L’Ondee: "beautiful, just not strong enough on me".
Chanel Beige: first hour is perfection, then musty iris.
Caron Bellodgia: "if it just went straight to the carnation drydown..."
Chantecaille Frangipane: Kirsten just got this, and is thinking it's pretty close!

What say you?

My recommendations:

If Chantecaille Frangipane turns out to be too sweet or heavy, Kirsten might try Keiko Mecheri Osmanthus. It has a similar creamy tropical floral feel, but it isn't as heavy as Frangipane or Annick Goutal Songes, and it isn't as green or sharp as Ormonde Jayne Frangipani.

I also tried to think of a carnation that might work, since Caron Bellodgia was "almost" right. I dismissed Floris Malmaison as too heavy and powdery, and Lorenzo Villoresi Garofano as too heavy and green. Etro Dianthus is a possibility, although I'm not at all sure it will have enough oomph for Kirsten.

As always, hope ya'll are going to do better than I did.

Note: image is untitled, by Ric e Ette at flickr; some rights reserved.

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  1. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:30 am

    I'm wondering if Guerlain's Metalys, or possibly Terracotta Voile d'ete, might do it for the carnation love? Or even l'Air du Temps?

    Kirsten also seems to have a penchant for almond. Perhaps l'Artisan Jour de Fete or Stephanie de St. Aignan's Amande Honorable? Perhaps even Serge Luten's Louve, although that might be a bit heavy?

    KIrsten also seems to like florals with vanilla. I'm thinking Un Lys for that, maybe l'Artisan Vanilia? Odori Iris might also interest her.

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  2. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:53 am

    Hi, Kirsten!

    Have you smelled Hypnotic Poison Elixir? It is every bit as wonderful as the original, if not more so, but definitely a smoother, calmer beast.

    Also, Prada EDP? A patch that takes on a delicious dark chocolate nuance and won't feel grating by any means. Sweet, but not cloyingly so.

    Happy hunting! 🙂

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  3. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:56 am

    If Kirsten likes big oriental – florals, but feels not comfortable wearing them at work, I would suggest trying more subtle florals (/orientals). So: Do Son or Tam Dao by Diptyque, Jasmin 17 by Le Labo and maybe also F. malle’s En passant – they don’t ooomph, but are very easy to wear (yet sophisticated) and absolutely feminine, as Kirsten asked. They also don’t overwhelm husbands or colleagues, and usually trigger loads of compliments!
    p.s. I would also add Narciso Rodriguez For Her (for the flowers), and Serge Lutens “un bois vanille” (for the beautiful but not overly sweet vanilla).

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  4. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:04 am

    How about V & R Flower Bomb or EL's Private Collection Tuberose Gardenia? In particular the PCTB has lush creamy florals, it it's too heavy for day, I'd go for using the soap and lotion. It's got nice sillage but not overwhelming.

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  5. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:18 am

    I would recommend Cabotine de Gres.

    A friend of mine, Tomboy-ish yet feminine wears it.

    I think in this case it's a winner. (and also not expensive!)

    Good Luck!! 🙂

    P.

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  6. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:20 am

    Hi Kirsten — I would suggest the following:

    Miller Harris Terre d'Iris – a great, bergamot oriental that is sexy and warm – good for day – could be unisex. This one gets so warm on the skin and is better each hour. It makes me think of sunshine.

    The new Boucheron “B” – warm rich osmanthus-vanilla-sandalwood oriental – very nice and not likely to offend. Has medium sillage and pretty good lasting power. Good “work” oriental.

    Lorenzo Villoresi Dilmum – a rich zesty orange blossom that dries down to a light orange-vanilla-spices. This one is very refreshing and yet spicy with a fantastic orange blossom.

    Have you tried Chanel 31 Rue Cambon? You may like it more than Beige.

    Also, maybe it might be too powdery for you depending on your nose, but one of my favorite comfort scents is Fragonard Grain de Soleil. After the top burns off – fresh floral jasmine, roses, etc – it becomes a vanilla-heliotrope foody comfort scent. It reminds me of rice pudding – and it's very soft and lasts forever.

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  7. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:25 am

    Hi Kirsten,

    Have you tried The Different Company's Jasmin de Nuit? It's sweet and spicy, and if worn lightly I think it's great for day-time.

    Good luck!

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  8. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:27 am

    I'll second Prada edp which I also wear – lightly – during the day. The dry down is wonderful, warm, rich, sexy. Coco Chanel is also along these lines….I've never had a trouble with it applied correctly during the day.

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  9. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:36 am

    I 2nd Flowerbomb. If you like Angel but it's too much, definitely try Flowerbomb! But also, if you like Angel, why not foody? Try Secret Obsession. Try Miss Dior Cherie.

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  10. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:55 am

    For sweet, creamy florals, how about a lily fragrance? Serge Lutens Un Lys was mentioned above, but for a slightly spicier take there's also Penhaligons Lily & Spice, and Antica Farmacista Casablanca. Robin mentioned Villoresi's Garofano for carnation; I'm still looking for the perfect carnation myself, but you could also try Villoresi's Donna (rose and carnation) or CdG Carnation.
    Also, for sweet, creamy comfort with a hint of almond, how about Philosykos? Mmm…

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  11. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:59 am

    Have you tried the Scent Systems carnation, Oeillet? I didn't recommend it to Kirsten because it's not light or “day”, but it's seriously gorgeous. And seriously expensive, though.

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  12. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Cabotine de Gres is very nice!

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  13. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 1:05 pm

    here it is…….cafe noir!….a true doubleshot scent with a woody lavender undertones slithering in musky vanilla aroma and ambrette before fading into a dusty brew…..

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  14. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Who makes that?

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  15. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 1:31 pm

    What about Sushi Impériale? The sillage shouldn't be too overwhelming if it's applied lightly. Oh, that's by Bois 1920, Kirsten, in case you didn't know.

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  16. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:02 pm

    What about Cabaret by Gres? I don't even really like rose scents but I loved this one (think it's the wood) and I found it sort of creamy as well.
    Or, what about Etra by Etro? My boss used to wear it, and I loved it–seemed kind of creamy to me and in looking at the scent notes it appears to also have sandalwood, rose & vanilla notes as well.

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  17. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:16 pm

    I'm thinking L'Heure Bleue, or even Dans tes Bras, but they may seem a bit “odd” to Kirsten.

    Kirsten, try the other strength in Songes. If your husband did not like the EdT, try the EdP or vice versa.

    I'm also thinking Bond No. 9 Lexington Avenue or the body cream to Chinatown.

    Speaking of body cream, how about POL's Luctor et Emergo in the body cream? The perfume makes my skin crawl, but the body cream is amazing!

    Finally, if you have a bit more in your budget, perhaps you would like to try Guerlain Angelique Noire or Plus Que Jamais?

    Good luck, Kirsten!

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  18. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Insolence Eau de Parfum

    Casmir

    Winter Delice (disc.)

    Cinnabar

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  19. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:18 pm

    I wonder if Kirsten would like Tiempe Passate (Antonia's Flowers). It is a medium-weight floral with a cedar basenote, with an ocean or salt note thrown in. The core of the fragrance is a creamy floral; only rose is listed in the notes, but I could swear I smell jasmine, too, when it's on my skin. It's available as a small purse atomizer.

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  20. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:20 pm

    You're completely excused for missing it, but it's actually on her “no” list above “-)

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  21. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Hi Guys, Kirsten here. Wow! Thanks so much for all your comments & suggestions. xxx

    I'm scribbling away like mad – so much to take in for a newbie!

    Loving the suggestions, my decant wishlist grows by the second! My favourite jasmine variety is “Clotted Cream”, if I could bottle this I'd be on Cloud 9!

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  22. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:53 pm

    You read my mind! While reading this list, the first thing that popped into my mind was L'Artisan Vanilia. It should be perfect for someone for whom Hypnotic Poison is too much for the daytime; Vanilia is sweet but not cloying, with a spicy snarl to it.

    Terracotta Voile D'Ete is also a great carnation scent. It's discontinued, but still available at all the online discounters. It's got plenty of vanilla in it, too.

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  23. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 2:54 pm

    I second this as a daytime scent, given what you love and what you don't love, Kirsten!

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  24. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Hmmm…. How about giving Hermes' Elixir des Merveilles (not the Eau, that's a different scent) a try? Salty, transparent amber with a touch of chocolate and oranges. It has that comforting foody vibe you like with a twist, and its transparent enough for daytime. And on that theme — the Epices trio from L'Artisan — Safran Troublant (saffron, vanilla, a touch of rose) and Piment Brulant (green pepper and chocolate, but not as weird as that sounds — like a lighter variation on the patch/coco in Angel) are beautiful separate and layered.
    And a cheapie — Yves Rocher Voile d'Ambre — light, warm, feminine, comforting, and available in 5 ml size for $3.

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  25. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 3:21 pm

    If you like Angel, you should try Angel Innocent for daytime (I get vanilla and cinnamon on me, plus it's soft and subtle.) And it should be easy to find.

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  26. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 3:27 pm

    I suggest L'Artisan Safran Troublant (soft comforting spice w/a bit of floral), Les Nereides Imperial Opoponax (spicy comfort scent) and any of the Limited Edition Opium summer scents–they are lighter florientals but are uncommon enough to be “hers.”

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  27. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 4:07 pm

    HI Kirsten,
    Here are my suggestions:
    Dawn Spencer Hurwitz Cimabue (lovely Indian rice pudding; not cloyingly sweet)
    Fendi Theorema (chocolate and orange liqueur with medium sillage and not too sweet); it's discontinued by samples are easy to find
    PG's Maori Musc (another gorgeously feminine light chocolatey musk)
    Someone suggested Serge Lutens's Louve which I also agree with!
    Have fun!

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  28. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 4:24 pm

    what about nuit de noho by bond… I think it is a great scent not to sweet and very warm, also westside also bond…

    I agree with Casmir and Hypnotic Poisen … Happy sniffing

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  29. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 4:31 pm

    The only thing I have to offer is that I think Comme des Garcons Carnation is a really nice, spicy solifllore. Good luck!

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  30. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 4:38 pm

    I could be wrong, but I think that's an Ava Luxe scent (?)

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  31. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Maybe these might work, Kirsten: Serge Lutens Fleurs d'Oranger and Rober Piguet Visa. The've got the horsepower you like, but they're still quite daytime-appropriate — at least to my nose! Also, Parfumerie Generale's l'Eau de Circe is creamy and voluptuous, but not too loud or heavy. Good luck!

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  32. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Hello Kirsten,
    I've been reading this blog for a very long time, but only joined just now so that I could comment on your search. I think we have similar tastes, and I too am a tomboy with a weakness for the aromatic side of femininity.
    Here are a few I think you might like…
    First two creamy tropicals:
    Monyette Paris
    La Maison de la Vanille: Vanille Divine des Tropiques
    On me the Monyette is stronger and smokier, and the Vanille Divine des Tropiques is more transparent…really subtle and lovely.
    Also, though it is one that receives VERY mixed reviews, I really love L'air de Rien by Miller Harris. It is warm and dry at first and sweetens considerably as it dries down. It gives me a similar feeling to Hypnotic Poison…just dirtier and a stays a bit closer to the skin. 🙂
    Good luck with your search!

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  33. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 5:20 pm

    I'd like to add another vote for Safran Troublant.

    Other picks: Kenzo Amour, Kenzo Amour Le Parfum

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  34. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 5:56 pm

    hi kirsten–

    i 2nd Cinnabar.

    how about Bal a Versailles?

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  35. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 5:59 pm

    joe, I was thinking the same.

    From the website: “Notes: Black coffee bean, Allspice Berries, Cardamom, French Lavender, Attar of Roses, Cedar, Patchouli, Vanilla, Mocha, Sandalwood, Siam Benzoin, Ambrette seeds.”

    Sounds like it, yes?

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  36. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 6:02 pm

    This has really helped redirect my focus. I'd almost given up hope of finding what I really liked, but everyone's suggestions seem to be pointing in the same direction. I'll just have to admit I have a little vanilla-demon that needs to be dealt with!

    I'm surprised how many Lutens and L'Artisan are now on my 'to try' list, since I've always thought they were a little too sophisticated and out-there for me.

    I'm looking forward to trying EL Amber Ylang Ylang, and Boucheron Trouble sounds like it ticks every box.

    And…just when I thought I was beginning to get to know niche – you've opened up a whole new world for me! You've created a monster! Thank you all so much.

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  37. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 6:06 pm

    Un Lys sounds about perfect–a white floral oriental, a bit spicy, but not “huge”.

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  38. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 6:08 pm

    This was my suggestion, also!

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  39. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I second the recommendations of L'Artisan's Safran Troublant – great daytime scent – I'm wearing it right now! – and KenzoAmour, a great anytime scent.

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  40. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Kenzo Amour or Amour Indian Holi for the comfort scents with soft woods; Burberry Brit (EDP only!) for vanilla, but might be too foody…those are my two winter comfort scents. They can both be overpowering in heat, but cool weather certainly brings out the best in these two. (I'm speaking about the “cool weather” (30s-70s) in Houston.) Has she tried EL Sensuous?

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  41. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 6:28 pm

    Hi,

    I tried Sensuous on a blotter strip a few weeks back, but I seemed to get a lot of acetone from it, which put me off. I'm learning I need to go and revisit things I've initially dismissed and actually test them on skin.

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  42. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Hi,

    Late to the party here, but I would like to suggest Chanel No. 5 Eau Premiere. It has a fresh vanilla drydown.

    Dawn

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  43. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 7:17 pm

    One more for you Kirsten, and this is a real sleeper.

    How about Guerlain Mahora? It has many notes similar to Songes, but is creamier and softer. My husband really likes it, so maybe yours will, too.

    You can probably find a bottle at one of the on-line discounters. I got mine the summer of 2007 for about $40.

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  44. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 7:42 pm

    How about Parfums DelRae's Bois de Paradis? (One small spritz behind the knees, one inside the elbows–a little goes a long way.) Guerlain's Jardins de Bagatelle, Chant d'Aromes, even the men's scent, Heritage? Annick Goutal's Passion (NOT Gardenia Passion)?

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  45. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Kenzo Amour immediately spring to mind for me as well. How about Penhaligon's Lily & Spice, or Donna Karan Gold?

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  46. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 8:13 pm

    I would also say Nuits de Noho by Bond no.9 – it does NOT like an Angel wannabe in my opinion. It is also more sophisticated and sensual. Another one I could suggest is Wood Coffee by Bond no.9 but it is nowhere to be found.

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  47. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Hi Kristen, sounds like we have very similar tastes, and I think you need some Bond No 9 in your life! You can order samples from their website, 6 for $15. Try Lexington Ave, So New York, Nuit de Noho, and Chinatown for sure. I really think you'll fall in love!!

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  48. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Hi, Kristen, Have you tried Clinique Aromatics? It may be a bit on the heavy side for day, but you could also try Chanel #5, or Coco and you could check Mandy Aftel's offerings at http://www.aftelier.com and see what she has available for samples.

    Enjoy!

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  49. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 8:35 pm

    I don't think I saw anybody mention it yet…
    Parfumerie Generale / Felanilla. The comfort of vanilla is there, it's calm and woody to make it good for daytime (not too loud, and grounded). I wouldn't have been able to recommend this yesterday…just got my sample…and am quite, quite liking it. Warning, though: wait for the top notes to go before making your decision. There's a fair amount of hay–which I generally like, by the way–but it ends up in a much smoother place.

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  50. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:33 pm

    Hi Kirsten! Are you overwhelmed yet? 😉 I'm intrigued by ScentScelf's suggestion of Parfumerie Generale FELANILLA. I haven't tried it yet, but it sounds like it could be a good fit.

    Let me join the throng suggesting L'Artisan SAFRAN TROUBLANT. It's unique and so pretty – one of my faves!

    Robin mentioned Etro DIANTHUS. I love this one and suggest that you give it try – it was the carnation that I was looking for.

    Two others that I don't think have been mentioned: Lea St. Barth LEA is a delicious almond/vanilla/musk combination, and Miller Harris FLEUR ORIENTAL, a feminine and soft oriental that has carnation, jasmine, and vanilla among other nice things.

    Best of luck with your search!

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  51. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:46 pm

    I'd second L'Artisan's Vanilla, which I find fabulous, and I'm not a vanilla freak. I was hugely disappointed with Joie de fete, my former favorite, because they took everything out except the almond, and it's simply dim now. Hmmm, sounds like a Dyptique fragrance: Dim Now, a new fragrance in the 'impossible to appreciate' line. I digress.
    Also M. Micallef's Gaiac is spicy, creamy, woody and yummy. If you like your spice edgy with a long-lasting sillage, try Neil Morris's Swoon or Intimate Vanilla. A soft, long-lasting floral that I find perfect is Eau L'Hiver from Frederic Malle.
    And finally the one with the name that keeps hiding from me. Stop laughing all you young whippersnappers, this will happen to you in menopause, too! It was a perfume by a popular house, found in better department stores. Rectangular bottle, gold top, and the jus was bright orange. It smells pleasantly of rice pudding but wasn't shy and morphed into an oriental you could wear in the daytime. It had an Indian name (dots, not feathers). And I'll need help before i go crazy. I'll wake up at 2 a.m and remember it. Sigh.
    Anyway, you will have plenty to try even without the mystery fragrance.

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  52. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:54 pm

    I scanned the list for Shalimar, but couldn't see it on there. In my mind, that's a classic comfort scent. Even Eau de Shalimar if the original's too much.

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  53. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:56 pm

    OH! Or Creed Virgin Island Water. It's coconut-ey and slightly gourmand/floral at the same time, and really light, so you'll never feel overwhelmed at work.

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  54. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 10:59 pm

    I second the Chinatown rec! For me, it's the olfactory equivalent of a tough-love kind of mom. Ultimate comfort, yet a small kick in the butt.

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  55. Anonymous says:
    17 November 2008 at 11:00 pm

    Ah, remembered it. (from above). Sira des Indes by Patou.

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  56. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 3:03 am

    precisely….

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  57. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 3:43 am

    How about Montale Intense Tiare. It is tropical and slightly sweet but not as overwhelming as most of the montales. Until trying this scent, I had never found a Tiare scent that I liked. It is a little jammy which I really like too.

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  58. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 5:24 am

    Quite a pot pourri of trials to consider! but what about Mugler's Rose Angel – described thus in a blog…”The surprising aspect is that the juxtaposition works remarkably well, resulting in a fragrance that fuses the gourmand temptations of melted chocolate swirled into warm honey and the unexpectedly masculine earthiness of patchouli. Although arresting and sensual, the combination can hardly be called pretty. …”

    That description has a whiff of “tom boy ” to me

    As the average lowland temperature in Scotland where Kirsten lives is around 8 degrees Celsius you do need something with a little “lift”

    Dare I also venture my own Scents of Time fragrance Maya- a soft oriental from Mexico where vanilla and chocolate from that country blend with light tropical fruit and flower ( including jasmin).

    Two more possibilities for your ever- growing list!

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  59. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 7:12 am

    Kirsten,

    I'd suggest layering Annick Goutal's Eau de Charlotte over Jo Malone's Blue Agava and Cacao. I do this sometimes to emphasis the chocolate note in EdC, which alas is very fleeting on me. I note you dismissed EdC in your list above but perhaps it's worth another go?

    I'd second the suggestion that you try Chinatown by Bond No. 9. Gorgeous creamy peach blossom, incense and sweet patchouli. Deeply comforting, but glam at the same time. And how about West Side? If you're in the mood for comfort scents, a creamy rose/vanilla like this might fit the bill.

    Serge Lutens Un Bois de Vanille is a grown-up vanilla which can be worn without embarrasment, yet it's still a wintertime, comforting scent. I'm also very fond of Lolita Lempicka L, which is a really well-executed vanilla perfume, and a total steal.

    I find patchouli very calming and comforting but I like it on the sophisticated end, I don't like smelling of dreadlocked hippie. Prada EdP is very warm and sexy, as someone commented above, and if you feel like splashing out, Chanel Coromandel from the Les Exclusifs range is superb.

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  60. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 8:21 am

    Again, thanks so much to everyone for all the suggestions (you just know I'm going to try them all!).

    The Bond No.9 series sound great – lots of new Guerlain's to try too. (Nahema EDP was a scrubber for me, the rest were really interesting – just didn't quite hit the spot).

    I'll let you know how I get on with them, hopefully I can find that HG – but even if I don't, I'm going to have soooooooo much fun sniffing and searching!

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  61. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 8:35 am

    Thank you, now I'll be able to sleep nights 😉

    Seriously, couldn't think of what you meant.

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  62. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 10:31 am

    Whoops! It was buried in that first paragraph. . . .Sorry.

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  63. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 10:35 am

    OT: I'd like tips as to how to apply Coco for day, it's a bit harsh at the opening but I get the impression that it could be soft and spicy.

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  64. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 11:06 am

    Late to the party, but I'm going to strongly second FM L'Eau d'Hiver for day wear especially now it is getting chilly.

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  65. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 11:31 am

    Seconded – it has that creamy, comforting vanilla in the drydown, and at least on me it's much more well-behaved and daytime-appropriate than Hypnotic Poison.

    Also, I'll throw in Mugler Cologne, just because I'm a fellow Angel fan and while Cologne is an entirely different kind of fragrance than Angel, on me they have something I can't quite pinpoint in common. Being a cologne it is light, fresh, a little soapy and very daytime-appropriate, but it's not a harsh, green cologne at all; more of a slightly off-kilter, floral musk. Testers are available everywhere.

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  66. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 1:08 pm

    hi again kirsten!
    i strongly second chant d'aromes and aromatics elixir. use aromatics sparingly, though–it can be overwhelming. chant d'aromes is absolutely lovely.

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  67. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 2:17 pm

    It sounds like you and I have pretty similar tastes, Kirsten, and two of my favorite scents are L'Artisan's Safran Troublant and Estee Lauder's Private Collection Amber Ylang Ylang. I know they've already been mentioned (several times!) and I do hope you get to try them. Both are creamy without being too gourmand and undeniably feminine without the overpowering florals. Good luck and have fun! 🙂

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  68. Anonymous says:
    18 November 2008 at 2:36 pm

    Hello, just thought of another line you might try- check out the line of sprays and solids at

    http://www.Pacificacandles.com/perfumes-solid.asp

    You will see their prices are nice, and when you read the descriptions you might find one to try! Also, if you want to try samples without breaking the bank, go to

    theperfumedcourt.com

    They have samples of a huge variety of easy and hard-to-find items. Have fun!

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  69. Anonymous says:
    19 November 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Wayyy late to comment here, but Parfums Laboissiere has a really lovely carnation. Creamy, peppery, and not as high octane as the Villoresi. Very reasonable, too! Might be worth a try…
    Christen

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  70. Anonymous says:
    20 November 2008 at 2:01 pm

    If you have the spray edp, which most of us would, spray it on your index finger, and then dab strategically very quickly. Whatever got on your finger will wear off with washing hands. Or, one spray right into the notch in the collar bone at the bottom of the throat. Dab with finger from that location strategically. Works like a charm with one spritz.

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  71. Anonymous says:
    1 January 2009 at 8:08 am

    Thanks Linden!

    I tried decants of almost everything in the replies, but Monyette is 'The One' !

    It's just perfect.

    Thanks to everyone again for the suggestions. I've found a few possible summer fragrances for 2009 too!

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